On June 22, 1986, Diego Armando Maradona converted to England the goal that made him eternal. But that masterpiece would not be the same without the story of Víctor Hugo Morales (Cardona, Uruguay, 1947). As if infected by the magic that was lived in the Azteca stadium in Mexico City, the "cosmic kite" that Morales improvised that memorable afternoon established him as the best soccer reporter in Argentina. Morales spoke with EL PAÍS in Buenos Aires, hours before flying to Madrid for the transmission of the final of the Copa Libertadores.
Question. Why Spain as the venue for the final?
Answer. I do not get the impression that it has to do with the accepted corruption in both Argentine and Conmebol football. The authorities of the CONMEBOL and FIFA were right here and it seems that they came to Madrid. Florentino Pérez is a guy with commercial interests here, he has 30% of the tolls on a highway to Buenos Aires, the sponsor is a Spanish bank, interests close. Television, which is the most important interest, may have gravitated in favor.
P. How has the transfer of the party been lived in Argentina?
R. It's a shame, a national disaster. In the simplicity of having to take a bus to a stadium, what happened is a formidable incompetence. But this ends with a fact that is also positive. The Argentines of Europe, who have football as a fundamental link of belonging to their country, can live what they always have to watch on television. It is an act of justice for great soccer fans.
P. Do you agree with those who say "they stole the game" or that now the cup should be called "Conquistadores" Cup?
R. Nobody stole the party from Argentina, it was Madrid as it could have been Miami or any other city. The fact that it is in Spain and it is called Copa Libertadores -and we are supposed to be liberated from Spain- means that it is called Copa Conquistadores. Over there the word game invites you to say that, but there is no displeasure with Spain. There are already reasons for the happiness of those who will see it there and because a scenario of as much prestige as the Bernabéu will give an internationality greater than the fact. The fact is pathetic, it is a shame, but in his belly some positive things travel.
P. Can there be incidents on Saturday at the Bernabéu?
R. What can happen in Spain is unpredictable, because River fans are buying tickets where Boca and Boca fans are tickets where the River. They are going to have to coincide, any outbreak of violence, any spark ignites a bomb. The danger is latent and not only by the brave bars, but also by the intolerance that is latent among Argentines today. The fact that they are the majority of those who live abroad and the football nostalgia may be an invitation to Argentina to be an example of coexistence that would be unimaginable here, but ticket sales have a complicated prognosis.
P. How do brave bars get so much power?
R. The bars, which were previously fought club with club, 20 years ago understood that they could participate in the business. For that reason there are divisions between the own bars, the fights between bars of a same team are more frequent. There have been murders between River and Boca, they have been killed for their participation in the business. The bar is a man who in love for the club walks through the club, accompanies the players, is a defender of other fans, earns an esteem and the direct vision that has of corruption is that it begins to ask for participation: tickets, security in the parking lots in the vicinity of the stadium, tickets for the festivals held in those stadiums. And that is a huge business that they defend with their teeth and teeth. And the leaders can not control them.
P. Was the attack on Boca bus the work of the River bars?
R. The bars were not directly, they were spontaneous among those that were not the bars, at least not organically, because some could have. It is an aggressiveness that has to do with football and the violence that is experienced in Argentina in general. We have a Security Minister, Patricia Bullrich, who is a [JAIR]Bolsonaro in women. He has played that cocktail plus the general violence that has been going on since the rise of a neoliberal government.
P. How does the game expect football?
R. It will be a very tense game, the situation is limit for both, the coexistence with the defeat is getting worse in the world and the second one is a poor wretch. And this may sound weird, but I think the game could not be played because the terror of losing all the fans pushed to not play that much desired game. In the non-acceptance of defeat, the fear of defeat is stronger than the joy of victory. The triumph is a pique of glory that lives in the moment, but then it is like the doctor who stays on the steps of the faculty with his title and says that this will be the best day of his life and then he does not know what to do. The defeat is something that will inhabit the loser throughout his life, an instance like this is not like losing a championship. Sometimes I think that summed up will push events to happen. Prior to what happened, I had the perception that many had a huge fear of defeat and that everyone was pushed into this reality that we now have. It was more comfortable for everyone to resolve at the desks, because nobody would have to regret that defeat.