Jos Luis Hernndez Martnez (Melilla, 1942), known as 'El Moro', played as a left-back at UD Las Palmas between 1963 and 1971. He made 164 appearances and achieved promotion to First Division and the second place in the league, coinciding with many of the legends of the club. After interviewing the widows of Juan Guedes, Justo Gilberto and Gilberto I, he does the same with Rosario 'Saro' Guerra, widow of Aureliano Estvez.
When and how did you meet Estévez?
I studied administrative assistant, but when I met him I worked as a sales assistant in Pedro Infinito in a bazaar. There I met his mother and one day she introduced him to me. I met him in Schamann, I was 16 years old. The mother came to buy where I worked.
Did you know that he played football when they presented him to you?
Was it a quiet courtship?
Yes. Well, being a soccer player he had his admirers, you know. But within what fits, yes. We did not argue. We talked about sports, football, politics ... everything.
Who gave his arm to twist before?
I, he had a very special character (laughs).
Do you understand football?
A little. I did not like it before I met him but I like the ins and outs more. My father liked him a lot, he went to López Socas a lot and I went with him. With Estevez we talked about games, things that were discussed on the radio, but he did not like to sit down and talk about tactics.
How did he react when he lost a game or played badly?
It was quite sad. That day I did not want to talk.
Do you remember a special game that he remembered with more enthusiasm?
In general all the parties of the UEFA. They were very important to him and to all the players.
And the Cup final?
He did not play because a game before was injured, he suffered a muscular effusion. They went to play against Salamanca and Miguel Muñoz said he would play. I should not have done it and could not play the final.
When you were transferred to Tenerife in 1975, did you live with him?
No. He went alone to Tenerife and then his parents. But I got it right because I came here.
He came back and started playing when I left football so we hardly agreed. Except once in which Héctor Rial called him to go to Seville to play in my place, while I was already in Seville concentrated for that trip and without being injured. How many years did you play at UD Las Palmas?
He played 16 years in Las Palmas and one in Tenerife. He arrived in Las Palmas with 17 and retired with 34.
Did the UD pay you any tribute?
No. According to the president at that time, it is because he was a rich player.
And what does that have to do?
Well, he said he did not need it.
Did you receive a gesture from UD Las Palmas when you passed away?
No. My husband died and I never received a call. It was ignored.
Did the UD recognize you as Estévez's wife?
What did Estévez dedicate himself to when he left football?
A developer and builder.
He was a commentator on radio stations.
Yes, he was with Segundo Almeida and with Manolo Morales. And on the radio UD Las Palmas, but it was very little time.
He was international sub 23 with Spain. Did you get excited?
If much. Eduardo Toba summoned him. And played with Barrios.
Do you think he felt valued in the UD?
I do not speak as a person, but as a player.
Neither one thing nor the other.
Did you feel very much leave the UD? What did his withdrawal say?
It saddened him a lot because football was his life. He felt very much to leave but Las Palmas went down to Segunda, he was 34 years old and he knew that he would not be able to continue. It was difficult for him to adapt to his new life, but when he changed and dedicated himself to something else, he found himself well.
Did you watch him play?
Seldom. I was very calm.
How did the criticism fit?
I passed them. He better than anyone else knew if he had been right or not. Miguel Muñoz was also the first to tell them not to read newspapers and ignore what the journalists said.
But that is very difficult. I remember that on Mondays all players bought the Brand and looked at what note they had been given.
(laughs) He was going through that. Football was his passion but also his work.
With which players did you relate more?
With those who were less famous. Manolo Marrero, Felo, Mayé, Pepe Juan ... the least named.
Do you have soccer friends?
Do not you go to the meals of the women of the ex-players?
No, they do not call me. Not the Association of Ex-players.
When his mother died I visited him at his house and found him defeated. I suffered a lot and it seemed different.
He lost part of his joy with his mother. That humor that he had, that laughed at everything, he lost.
How many years did you live together?
We live together for 22 years, apart from courtship.
Why did not they get married?
We got married, two years before he died.
Do you remember with special affection some place you visited?
Yes. Malaga, the town of Torre del Mar. There we spent three or four days every time we went to the Peninsula. Also your land, Sabadell. And Andorra.
What are you doing on any given day?
The truth is that I still miss him very much. I take care of my cats, I have six. I take a walk down the avenue, I have to do paperwork, I go to the gym, to see my sister, my nephews ... with 61 years as a normal life.
When did you find out about his illness?
On June 2, 2011. I had been admitted and when he went to see me he told me that he felt bad, that his head hurt. I told him to leave but he told me no. They were doing some tests because I had a tumor and they were controlling me. When he left on June 1, he felt bad, his legs fell. The next day he was the same and we went to the doctor, although he did not want to because he said that they were going to tell him that he had something wrong. We took him and they told us to take him to an oncologist. When we told them the symptoms, they told us to take him away. And it was when we were told that I had not one but three tumors on my head.
I know he went to Navarre.
Yes. First they sent him to the Insular Hospital, they confirmed that he had no more tumors in his body and that the ones he had in his head were the worst kind there is. We took him to Pamplona, they operated on him to try to save his life and it came out much worse. All the left part of the body was paralyzed.
I saw him the day he came to say goodbye.
It was badly damaged. There came a time when I did not know I had been a soccer player. The tumors were reproduced after the treatments. Seeing how each day was going off was fatal. He was aware that he was going to die. Seven years have passed and I still miss him a lot.
At what point did you realize that everything was lost?
A few days before.
Do you believe in the afterlife?
He and I always thought that there is another life. And I hope to find it.