March 4, 2021

“I do not fit the norm nor feminism”

It is a voice of the “underground”, an artist outside the industry, who has built a voice from the periphery and from a feeling of non-belonging. The Fury, Nerea Loron (Cascante, 1983), had to tear down a few walls and not all were outside it, but a presence and style has been built at a time when it is increasingly difficult to escape dogmatism. Without stylistic prejudices (“I don’t care if they don’t call me rapper, if they don’t want to”), punk rhyme and militant feminism, La Furia has published the first volume of “Sinner” and has already released an advance of the second part. On March 20, along with Virginia Rodrigo, he performs at the Sala El Sol in Madrid, but first passes through Elche (9), San Sebastián (13) and Valencia (16). Later, it passes through Bilbao (21), Zaragoza (22) and Barcelona (23).

-What is the “leit motiv” of “Sinner”?

– “Sinner” is a two-volume disc that has to do with self-acceptance at all levels and also with not feeling part. Because it is one thing not to feel part of the norm, which is something that has happened to me since I was little, starting with family circumstances, which make you be out of the most common and also because of your vital choices. But in the end I realized that within the margin, that is, outside the norm, there are also norms. And I don’t fit either. “Sinner” is a declaration of intent that says that I am not the best being a normative woman, I am one of the bad ones because I do not follow the established canons, but the twist is that I am not a role model outside those norms, no I am the best of the bad ones. I give up, I’m not a model of anything or I pretend. I am true to myself, I do what suits me and the music heals me and I am still looking for habitable places.

-Is it more common for a woman to feel like this to happen to a man?

-Yes, because the factors that make us be outside are not just gender; It is race, class, and if you have any functional diversity. In the system, if you are a man diagnosed as a man at birth, and you have a sexuality that fits what goes into the canons of normative masculinity, all good. If you are white, much better. And heterosexual, better. And if you don’t have a functional diversity, that makes you on the cusp. That is “normal.” Everything that is not that, receives one type of discrimination or another. There are many factors that make you in an unequal situation.

-A specific or diffuse violence?

-It depends. The patriarchal capitalist system generates violence but we must be careful, because the system is the people. The one who hits his wife is part of the system but whoever does it is a person. However, we must bear in mind that it is collective, because if we pass it to the individual, we simplify a lot. And everyone has to see what part of the cake belongs to him. I know, as white, that I have a piece of cake that my Latin American sister does not have. So, it is interesting that everyone reviews their privileges and turns it around, without blame either … but to make this a little better.

– And those debates are in the origin of the disc?

-Well, the personal is political, that is clear. I never write from what is socially needed, but I don’t understand my activism like that. I do what I need at every moment. What happens is that as I have feminist and class consciousness, that moves. And in the genesis is what hurts me or can heal me.

-So it’s not a disc with a program.

-No, but of course, you watch the news and write. Many times I understand myself through the things I write. In this case, he does not even talk about what is said in feminism. That’s why I told you that I am not even the model within the margin. It has to do with what moves me. And what defines me is the sinner. It is a Catholic concept that has to do with somehow that is the genesis, of something that comes to me as a child.

-Christian symbolism is very attractive.

-I think that mysticism, the non-tangible, we all have it. I have an altar at home with virgins and more. I love the Virgin of Guadalupe. When someone goes to a distant country always brings me a symbol of their religious beliefs. I have my mystical universe and you can call the earth whatever you want. What is dangerous is that these beliefs are used to harm other people and that is done with religion. It is interesting to rescue some things from respecting the beliefs of others but being critical. And I am interested in the subject of sin because it seems much more fun. I think it has a transgressive point to declare yourself a sinner.

-There has been a recent controversy around “perreo”, hypersexualized dance at a Zowi concert … what is your position in this regard?

-I think that, as long as they do, everything is fine. What worries me is being at the service of others. The Zowi seems to me an aunt who is really and who lives her music from the corporality and who am I to judge her? The question is interesting and I think we make the game to the hetero-patriarchy judging each other. One of the weights of femininity is that we always have to be competing with each other for the masculine look. And they judge us enough to do it among us. Let everyone be who they want to be, how pretty screwed they are.

-In the “bling bling” rap there were many women in bikinis … that could be taken for sexual purposes.

-Well, while she is choosing, it also seems good for her. If you are paid and want to do it … Another thing is what I think of that image that is projected, that there is a reification. But this is like the issue of prostitution. I will never judge those who are making an economic transaction in exchange for anything, as long as they are of age with the capacity to decide for themselves. We are adults One thing that happens a lot is that women are childish all the time.

-But around these issues feminism is divided.

-Yes. And I always position myself in listening to those who are there. I am not a whore, but we will have to listen to the sex workers what they say. It is very complicated and delicate and I don’t speak much either because I need to listen. But I am sure that to talk about prostitution you have to have those who exercise it. And that I will never judge a woman by what she does with her body. That’s what patriarchy is for.

-He has used a word that in rap has also generated controversy, which is the word “whore”, often misunderstood as an insult to women when sometimes a man says it to another, but, in any case, controversial for the language.

-I think that when a man uses it, he is sexist because he is in a position of power and that when he uses it, a woman can even be empowering. What you do is appropriate an insult and resignify it. In the last song, “Sinner”, I say: “Every day more expensive is this whore who sings”. It is a way of saying, “for you to call me, my name is” and “to go to work for free to your” holidays “to cover the fee, at least you will pay me.” Notice that it is like the theme of “fag”, which is the stigma among men.

-Well, but when used among homosexuals it is not offensive, just as among blacks they are called “black”.

-That’s. When you reapprove insult, you rearm. If I am a lesbian and I ask for forgiveness and permission, then I enter the game. But if you declare yourself “bollera”, by political positioning, it is another place. I am not asking to be allowed. I say: “I am even though I screw you.” And I find it interesting that the stigmas of “whore” or “fag” are ways of criticizing everything that comes out of normative femininity and normative masculinity. If a boy gets out of what they say he is being a boy, he is a fag. If she’s a girl, she’s a whore. Since we were kids. Breaking that corset is a wonderful release.

– You don’t even fit in the feminist canon, why?

-Well, because in the end it is very difficult to be perfect. Feminism doesn’t ask you, but sometimes you say, I have to allow myself not to do everything right … it’s a bit complicated …

-I understand more or less, but I was wondering if you feel a pressure or is a self-pressure that is imposed.

-It is a self-demand. But sometimes I’ve noticed things, huh? But they are not significant. When I began to sing that there was no boom in perreo, in feminism, women for femininity received a lot of cane. And in some cases, some neglected femininity to be taken seriously. We have masculinized. And I’ve always resignified my femininity, rather towards … I don’t know, not normative. Maybe more punki. And 10 years ago I went up with stilettos and corset and that in an environment may have made some noise.

– Sing “don’t call me female, call me rage.”

-But that has nothing to do with feminism, but it is sometimes said female rap. It is like football. Why women’s football and not men’s football? The masculine is not named because it is. And the feminine has to be named. I do do feminist rap because it’s there impregnated, but I don’t do feminine rap, I do rap. The female category is a trap to name that month not usually.

-How did music help you individually?

-He had it in mind since childhood. I played the piano for five years, in the conservatory. At home on Sundays there was classical music and there was rock and roll, Elvis, the Beatles … we have always been free to choose and we have been very respected. I always try to let the kids have their legitimate tastes because they receive that theirs is not cool. My mother is a language teacher and wrote poetry and my father has always played music for us and I think that made me write since I was little. And I took the step because my little brother told me why don’t you sing it? And I realized that, having always been educated by a feminist woman, I was weighing that I was an aunt and that I was not able to sing it in the alley with my brother and colleagues because I felt that I was not good. We need to double the self-esteem to take the public step because we lack references, because they tell you that ours is not worth it … and the social weight is very heavy.

-Why was it decided?

-We organized a small festival and I was there with the intention as it always happens to women. But at one point on the stage there were some slightly chauvinistic speeches, some kids singing and I talking to mine, I got angry. I went on stage to say we didn’t take care. And I thought why do they dare to do this and I don’t? I thought: “These have come from super far to do this fucking shit and I dare not get on. And I thought he was going to do it for me and for everyone. ” And in the micro open session I sang a cappella. And I did it for me.

-I mentioned before that if a festival calls you for being a fee, they pay you well. How does the industry behave regarding all this we are talking about?

-I see the industry from afar, really. I am more in the underground than elsewhere. And I get the feeling that more presence of women is requested from society and there are places that call us because they have to call us. In other places, I am not aware: because I already have a vital journey and I see it. But I don’t feel bad because they call me for being a fee, because I think it’s my place and I’m super happy and I’ll say mine. And there are always aunts who discover and thank you.

-But that’s your perception, isn’t it? No one has told him to call him for a fee …

-No, but come on, that when March 8 approaches that the office does not supply … that happens to me and to all.

-But let’s see, that’s not right, right? It is a bit ridiculous.

-It’s bullshit. But well, the point is that we are aware that, although there is a very powerful feminist awakening now, it is not that everything is already done. That is why sometimes it scares me when there are speeches that say that equality is achieved and that the problem is in Islamic countries. There are a lot of things that have been achieved, but because there are feminists like the ones that demonize, the feminine radicals, that have gotten us to have rights now. And this speech that I say is more white-bourgeois that says: “Feminism is fine, but …”. In that but there is the trap. They say: “Don’t make so much noise or don’t be exaggerated.” Well, those exaggerated ones are the ones that change things. But he is the one who makes everything go as it is.


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